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animoron
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:29 am  Reply with quote

do you think 2 child policy is just an way that abortion should be passed also...

when the mother concieved and that she has alraedy 2 children, so that the policy will not be transgressed, there is a need to abort the child...

so, what do you think, is child policy is their way so that abortion will be approved as law? ...

sagot na ito sa matinding kakapusan sa pag-kain sa isang pamilya... Wink

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gem28
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:04 pm  Reply with quote

i am in favor of 2 child policy, so that we will have the capability to give them good future compared to others who has a big family...
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animoron
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:16 am  Reply with quote

saka para naman di lumobo ang populasyon ng pilipino... Wink
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vicoy
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:59 am  Reply with quote

Actually, di ako agree sa 2 child policy na yan. Maxado naman atang pake-alamero ang mga Politicians natin para pake-alaman pa ang kagustuhan ng mga mamamayan sa kung ilang anak ang gusto nila. If I know, ang daming politicians natin ngaun ang maraming anak dahil sa dami ng mga asawa nila. People of the Philippines, d2 sa Mindanao, there are politicians who has more than one "marital partner", yung iba nga d2 tag tatlo (3) or even more ang mga asawa nila. But, didn't the President even thought of it kung san kinukuha ng mga politicians na to ang mga pera nila upang mabuhay sila ng marangyang marangya? I even witnessed how the Present Mayor of a certain Place in Mindanao fought Pacquiao in a cock match in Cebu.... Hai, Rolling Eyes
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babypink
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:39 am  Reply with quote

i must say na wala naman talaga pakialam ang mga politicians kung ilan ang gustong maging anak ng mga mamamayan...pero with the increasing rate of poverty, it is but practical to have the two-child policy...let's not think of the wealthy politicians na lang...kahit isipin na lang natin yung mga mas nakakaraming pilipino...at sino ba sila? hindi ba sila yung mga pilipino who belong to class C down to class D...

you see, wala na nga silang work kahit na nakikita ko most of the time na malalakas naman ang mga pangangatawan nila para maghanap buhay...wala na silang work but then, anak pa sila ng anak...ano na lang ang ipapakain nila sa mga anak nila...in turn, their children will also grow in poverty...and since ganito na ang naging buhay nila, may malaking posibilidad na ganito na rin ang iparanas nila sa mga magiging anak naman nila...it's just a cycle...hindi nga talaga matatapos ang paghihirap kung ganitong klaseng mag-anak ang meron tayo...

kung tutuusin, hindi naman lahat ng pilipino ay mahirap dahil kapos sa edukasyon...may iba namang kapos sa edukasyon pero marunong naman magsikap...diba...

kung ipapatupad ang two child policy, mabibigyan nila ng sapat na attention ang dalawa nilang anak...mapag-aaral nila ang mga ito kahit sa isang pampublikong paaralan...masusuportahan nila ito hanggang sa kolehiyo...mabibigyan ng sapat na nutrisyon na nararapat sa kanila, pati medical attention...higit sa lahat, mabibigyan nila ang mga ito ng sapat na pagmamahal at pag-aalaga...
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Politicalhitter
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:18 am  Reply with quote

I just want to give my opinion to what you have written... If the 2 child policy would be approved by the congress, then there would be a proble that would arise... We all know that the church disapproves the use of non-natural method or let's just say contraceptives... Probably, 2 persons which are literally married had 2 children, then, they accidentaly made another batch. What would be the government's solution for this scenario? Would it be a way for abortion to be legalized?

On the other hand, not only the "karaniwang mamamayan is responsible for the inflation of the population of this country. There are also those "illegal" ladies who we all know that they are scattered not only in Metro Manila but also to the whole world. This fact could be also one of our bases for the government to make another action on their resolutions regarding this controversial 2 child policy.

If the government would stately clear the prons and cons of the policy, there might be a way to be approved by many. In a larger sense, who wouldn't like Philippines to grow not only in one aspect of life? Socially speaking, Philippines is just a poor country, but it has the potential to be a country full of wealth.

You're again right when you said that many of those who suffer from poverty drives their attention in "baby making". But in the real sense, we could drive in the conclusion that the government is also the one who should be blamed because they lack the attention and potential to give even just a simple job to those "poor mamamayan" of the society.

Is it a cycle? Well yes it is. It is a cycle, a non-ending cycle. This cycle flows on many many ways... But one thing is certain, in these cycles, those who have the power and money has the capability to manipulate and take advantage to those persons whom I refer to as "mga pobreng mamamayan ng Pilipinas" in which we could not deny...

So,,, we could really not blame each other, I just want to emphasise the reallity that those who suffer from "kahirapan" is more abundant in the lack of opportunities in life. That's why there is the conclusion of the "cycle" which leads us to a deeper thinking to what the real solution is.
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Politicalhitter
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:20 am  Reply with quote

I just want to give my opinion to what you have written... If the 2 child policy would be approved by the congress, then there would be a proble that would arise... We all know that the church disapproves the use of non-natural method or let's just say contraceptives... Probably, 2 persons which are literally married had 2 children, then, they accidentaly made another batch. What would be the government's solution for this scenario? Would it be a way for abortion to be legalized?

On the other hand, not only the "karaniwang mamamayan is responsible for the inflation of the population of this country. There are also those "illegal" ladies who we all know that they are scattered not only in Metro Manila but also to the whole world. This fact could be also one of our bases for the government to make another action on their resolutions regarding this controversial 2 child policy.

If the government would stately clear the prons and cons of the policy, there might be a way to be approved by many. In a larger sense, who wouldn't like Philippines to grow not only in one aspect of life? Socially speaking, Philippines is just a poor country, but it has the potential to be a country full of wealth.

You're again right when you said that many of those who suffer from poverty drives their attention in "baby making". But in the real sense, we could drive in the conclusion that the government is also the one who should be blamed because they lack the attention and potential to give even just a simple job to those "poor mamamayan" of the society.

Is it a cycle? Well yes it is. It is a cycle, a non-ending cycle. This cycle flows on many many ways... But one thing is certain, in these cycles, those who have the power and money has the capability to manipulate and take advantage to those persons whom I refer to as "mga pobreng mamamayan ng Pilipinas" in which we could not deny...

So,,, we could really not blame each other, I just want to emphasise the reallity that those who suffer from "kahirapan" is more abundant in the lack of opportunities in life. That's why there is the conclusion of the "cycle" which leads us to a deeper thinking to what the real solution is.
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babypink
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:53 pm  Reply with quote

Actually, yun nga ang problema sa mga Pilipino. Lahat nakaasa sa government. Why not start in ourselves before blaming the government for everything diba. We are the captain of our own ship. Therefore, gagawa at gagawa tayo dapat ng ways to be in the right path and survive. Yun nga lang, hindi lahat ng Pilipino ay matiyaga at masipag. Lagi na lang nakaasa, intay na lang kung kelan pumatak ang ulan. Worse of all, instead of working a little harder pa, they end up making babies pa. Im not saying naman that abortion should be legalized in any way. Pero people should also try to have discipline and control. Yun ang kulang ng mga nakakaraming Pilipino, lalo na those living within the poverty line. Tapos lagi pa sila puro reklamo. Unfair naman to those people who are trying their best to earn a living and to those who are paying their taxes.

Bakit nga ba kung sino pa yung mga kinakapos ay sila pa ang marami pa ang anak...? Hobby ba yung paggawa ng anak...? If they would be very very busy enough, they would not end up bums in their houses, doing nothing and in any given minute, would end up doing a little lovemaking to their housewives. Kung mashado sila busy to persevere, hindi nila mashado gagawing "hobby" yung 'baby making.' I don't mean these in a bad sense naman. Pero kahit kayo ma-oobserve nyo naman ang activities ng isang tao. Kung ang isang tao ay super busy to earn a living and achieve his ambitions for his family, magkakaron ba sya and his wife ng maraming time for making babies? Pero kung ang isang tao ay lagi lang sa bahay, doing nothing, shempre mabobored yan tapos babaling nya attention nya sa wife nya para naman may magawa. Since wala naman mashadong drive and will itong tao na to achieve his goals and ambitions in life, ok lang sa kanya yung nakasanayan na nyang buhay na palaging ganun. Typical Filipino. Kawawang Family.

Yung two-child policy is one way of discipline and control for Filipinos who lack the will and drive to work harder and uplift their present conditions in life. Pero I'd also say that there must be some innovations sa rules na yun para mas maging fair sa lahat...
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Politicalhitter
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:26 am  Reply with quote

You're absolutely right. But in the real sense, there are many Filipinis who strive for he betterment of their lives, but unfortunately, opportunities lack within their reach. Sabagay, we can't blame the government always but, there are some factors affecting the daily lives of the mamamayang Pilipino which is not fair for them, ah basta... complicated ang situation... hehe... tnx baby pink, magagamit q 2 sa research q...
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babypink
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:03 pm  Reply with quote

well...since the colonization of the spaniards, natuto na ang mga pilipino ng "bahala na" at "mamaya na" habit...kaya i don't think na maraming pilipino ang nagstrive hard for the betterment of their living situations. most filipinos after all are lazy and too proud. hindi katulad ng mga japanese na honor para sa kanila ang magkaron ng work, maliit man ito o malaki.

yun na nga eh, tamad na nga karamihang pilipino tapos naging hobby pa nila ang paggawa ng anak. hindi naman natin pwede sabihin na ginagawa lang nila yun just for fun or dahil sa bored lang sila kasi nga mga wala silang work. pero diba, in everything that you do, dapat responsible ka. pero sa tingin ko, hindi yun ang nangyayari. kaya kung practicality at growth ng pamumuhay ang paguusapan natin, baka nga makatulong ang two-child policy.
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